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(@johnnybjaguar)
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Obumma says there won't be any pork in the stimulus package. He only missed it by 8,500. Yes...8 thousand five hundred pieces of pork, give or take a thousand. He's such a joke.

 
Posted : February 26, 2009 2:51 pm
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During the not-so-subtle Matt Lauer softball love fest with Obama before the Superbowl, Obama made the statement that the stimulus bill has no earmarks and should immediately re-start our economy.

So I guess the following is what he means:

$1 billion for Amtrak, which hasn’t earned a profit in four decades.

$400 million for research into global warming. This all during one of the coldest winters in a long time.

$2.4 billion for projects to demonstrate how carbon greenhouse gas can be safely removed from the atmosphere. (YES, I wrote the word BILLION)

$650 million for coupons to help consumers convert their TV sets from analog to digital, part of the digital TV conversion. (Why the government has to now provide televisions to everyone is crazy)

$600 million to buy a new fleet of cars for federal employees and government departments. (And this will help the general public how? The govt already spends over $800 million a year on vehicles but they want to add another $600 million.)

$75 million to fund programs to help people quit smoking. (Again, why does the govt have to do this.)

$21 million to re-sod the National Mall, which suffered heavy use during the Inauguration. (Maybe we should just have the democratic party pay this entire bill, since it was their party members who tore up the mall.)

Now remember this is supposed to RE-START our economy

$2.25 billion for national parks. This item has sparked calls for an investigation, because the chief lobbyist of the National Parks Association is the son of Rep. David R. Obey, D-Wisc. The $2,25 billion is about equal to the National Park Service’s entire annual budget. The Washington Times reports it is a threefold increase over what was originally proposed for parks in the stimulus bill. Obey is chairman of the House Appropriations Committee.

$335 million for treatment and prevention of sexually transmitted diseases.

$50 million for the National Endowment for the Arts. $4.19 billion to stave off foreclosures via the Neighborhood Stabilization Program. The bill allows nonprofits to compete with cities and states for $3.44 billion of the money, which means a substantial amount of it will be captured by ACORN, the controversial activist group currently under federal investigation for vote fraud. Another $750 million would be exclusively reserved for nonprofits such as ACORN – meaning cities and states are barred from receiving that money. Sen. David Vitter, R-La., charges the money could appear to be a “payoff” for the partisan political activities community groups in the last election cycle.

$44 million to renovate the headquarters building of the Agriculture Department. (And everyone was angry about the several million dollars spent on the renovation of Citi’s office)

$32 billion for a “smart electricity grid to minimize waste.

$87 billion of Medicaid funds, to aid states.

$53.4 billion for science facilities, high speed Internet, and miscellaneous energy and environmental programs. (For buildings to get high speed internet… come on… really)

$13 billion to repair and weatherize public housing, help the homeless, repair foreclosed homes.

$20 billion for quicker depreciation and write-offs for equipment.

$10.3 billion for tax credits to help families defray the cost of college tuition.

$20 billion over five years for an expanded food stamp program.

Again Obama said there were NO EARMARKS… Welcome to the lying world of Obama:
$2 billion earmark to re-start FutureGen, a near-zero emissions coal power plant in Illinois that the Dept. of Energy defunded last year because the project was inefficient

$650 million for the digital television (DTV) converter coupon program

$88 million for the Coast Guard to design a new polar icebreaker (ship)

$448 million for constructing the Dept. of Homeland Security HQ

$248 million for furniture at the new Homeland Security headquarters

$600 million to buy hybrid vehicles for federal employees

$400 million for the CDC to screen and prevent STD’s

$1.4 billion for a rural waste disposal programs

$125 million for the Washington, D.C. sewer system

$150 million for Smithsonian museum facilities

$1 billion for the 2010 Census, projected cost overrun of $3 billion

$75 million for “smoking cessation activities”

$200 million for public computer centers at community colleges

$75 million for salaries of employees at the FBI

$25 million for tribal alcohol and substance abuse reduction

$500 million for flood reduction projects on the Mississippi River

$10 million to inspect canals in urban areas

$6 billion to turn federal buildings into “green” buildings

$500 million for state and local fire stations

$650 million for wildland fire management on Forest Service lands

$150 million for Smithsonian museum facilities

$1.2 billion for “youth activities,” including youth summer job programs

$88 million for renovating the headquarters of the Public Health Service

$412 million for CDC buildings and property

$500 million for building and repairing NIH facilities in Bethesda, MD

$160 million for “paid volunteers” at the Corporation for National and Community Service

$5.5 million for “energy efficiency initiatives” at the VA “National Cemetery Administration”

$60 million for Arlington National Cemetery

$850 million for Amtrak

$100 million for reducing the hazard of lead-based paint

$75 million to construct a new “security training” facility for State Dept Security officers when they can be trained at existing facilities of other agencies.

Congress can spent all of the $900 billion dollars and still not get the economy moving. Or they could take the $900 billion dollars and send it to the taxpayers. This comes out to about $2500 per person. Why not just send $10,000 to each TAX-FILING family and they can use that money to directly stimulate the economy? The democrat’s way is just a waste of money.

 
Posted : February 26, 2009 3:10 pm
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That's just the tip of the proverbial iceberg. And now the budget which, if we took ALL the money from everyone who makes over $250K, not just taxes, wouldn't cover a quarter of it. Where the hell's it coming from?? Is anybody paying attention to this fiasco and this joke of a "president"?

 
Posted : February 26, 2009 3:15 pm
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Hey Pop..........How come you never have a response to intelligent debate? Doesn't any of this bother you? Please tell us how this will stimulate the economy. We are eager to hear your answer. Let me get this out the way for you so you can focus on the question.........Repigs, liars, rethugs, iraq, the word "no", can't find one man, keep the printing presses going, strong economic fundamentals, etc., etc.
O.k......now give us something new and feel free to be honest and original 😉

 
Posted : February 27, 2009 10:16 pm
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OK... MY BELIEF IS THE COUNTRY IS 2 FAR IN DEBT , BEYOND IMAGINATION!....and this was mainly caused by the iraq war ....all lies and bs.... u guys wanted it now its time 2 pay ......the dollar willl get stronger if we pay down the debt!.... and maybe things will get better ....can not keep the printing presses running!

 
Posted : February 27, 2009 10:23 pm
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That's a nice general response. But do you really think the stimulus package, with items stated above, will actually help the economy? Or would you agree that much of this will only put us in more debt? If the answer is yes, than your continual blame on the Republican party is only to get a rise out of us. Certainly you are one who supports fiscal responsibility.........right? I don't care if you call it Iraq or this stimulus bill, it still equates to more debt. Sounds like you are more caught up on Iraq than anything else. :-

 
Posted : February 27, 2009 11:35 pm
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