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PLEASE KNOCK SOME SENSE INTO ME !!!

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(@undefeated77)
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Today I placed a bet for $1100 on the money line to win $90 because
accuscore has Orlando Magic at 87% while they have the L.A. Clippers
at 13%. Also Dunkel has Orlando winning by 23 points while Vegas has
them winning by 13 points. 😮

Can anyone tell me what could go wrong? I can not keep on doing this kind
of betting if I will eventually lose it all. :'(

Does anyone have any bad experiences betting on the money line in basketball
on a team where all the factors point to the team winning that you bet on? :-

Have you ever bet on a team that you thought was a lock but lost the bet? ???
Why was the bet lost? Injury? Team chemistry not there that night?

I need to have some sense knocked into me if I am on the wrong track. 😛

Thanks for your input, Undefeated77 ;D

P.S. What kinds of things could go wrong that could make a team so highly favored
lose the game? The best player getting injured during the game is one thing. The
best player being dumped by his girlfriend before the game could demoralize him. The
best player getting into an auto accident before the game could throw the team spirit
off etc. etc. etc. Anyone have any other ideas?

 
Posted : February 4, 2009 6:30 pm
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Today I called up my bookie and I placed a bet for $1100 on the money line
to win $90 because accuscore has Orlando Magic at 87% while they have
the L.A. Clippers at 13%. Also Dunkel has Orlando winning by 23 points while
Vegas has them winning by 13 points. 😮

Can anyone tell me what could go wrong? I can not keep on doing this kind
of betting if I will eventually lose it all. :'(

You went wrong was placing this bet in the first place. Why would you risk that much to win so little? I can't condone this one bit. I wouldn't punch you in the head but you definitely need a good shaking.

Does anyone have any bad experiences betting on the money line in basketball? :-

You could fill up this entire thread with bad beat moneyline stories. Some Yankee's ones come right to my mind.

Have you ever bet on a team that you thought was a lock but lost the bet? ???

There is no such thing as a lock, even the most secure bets have tons of risk especially on the ML.

I need to have some sense knocked into me if I am on the wrong track. 😛

You are for sure. I would never suggest laying over -160 or -170 on the moneyline even if the planets were aligned and a mermaid told me after it won she would give me a blow job and I could live with her under the sea.

Thanks for your input, Undefeated77 ;D

P.S. What kinds of things could go wrong that could make a team so highly favored
lose the game? The best player getting injured during the game is one thing. The
best player being dumped by his girlfriend before the game could demoralize him. The
best player getting into an auto accident before the game could throw the team spirit
off etc. etc. etc. Anyone have any other ideas?

All of the things that will cause you to lose any bet are the same ones in play on this particular wager. I hope you win but I think you are going about it all wrong and you are right about one thing, you cannot keep making bets like this and plan on coming out ahead in the long run.

Win or lose today (and I hope for your sake its a win) laying this kind of loot on a measly return is nuts!

 
Posted : February 4, 2009 7:56 pm
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Although I placed this bet, after about 15 minutes I called up and cancelled it. ;D

I did however lay $130 to win $10 on the money line on the same team. I also

placed $35 to win the Lakers on the spread and another $35 to win the Magic

on the spread. I bought two points on each of those last two bets which is something

I probably did not need to do. But I had sense enough to cancel the $1100 bet for a

measly $90. So I am not as stupid as you may think. 😉

Thanks for the input Mr. Cash, Undefeated77 8)

 
Posted : February 4, 2009 8:34 pm
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I think it was the uncomfortableness at having placed such a large amount
of my bank roll that caused me to cancel that bet which won by 29 points
while Dunkel had them winning by 23 and Vegas only by 13.

Anyway, I did win tonight on all my bets and here is a recap below:

MY HANDICAPPING TOOLS ARE PROVING TO BE VERY GOOD.

All my bets were winners today: Lakers -5.5,

Magic -10.5, and Magic money line won of course.

In fact, I am consistently identifying locks on
the money line which have won by 24, 19 and
29 points the last three days. The lakers was
just an extra winning bet and not part of the
series above.

But if I had bet all those on the spread they
would have won also.

I am excited because I am finally winning consistently
after just starting new at this at the beginning of the
last baseball season.

Undefeated77

 
Posted : February 5, 2009 2:13 am
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I'm glad you won but you are still going about it all wrong bud. The amount is relative. To me risking $130 to win $10 is just as bad as risking $1100 to win $90.

Also, buying 2 points a game is nuts too. I don't even really like to tell people to buy half points, buying 2 points like that you are the bookies dream come true.

Listen, I am happy you have won these bets but I am telling you right now you cannot keep placing wagers like this and coming out on the winning end, I don't care what sources of information you use.

You can't lay more than $160-170 to win $100 and you can't pay triple and quadruple juice and come out ahead over a season or over a career.

Unless you can see the future what you are doing here is the sports betting equivalent to pissing into the wind with your mouth open.

The people I personally know who win on a consistent basis play the same amount on every game and only step up when their bankroll size calls for it, look for underdog ML value plays instead of focusing on ML favorites and never buy points. I don't want to beat you up but pretty much the opposite of everything you told me you did yesterday.

Not trying to boss you around but simply telling you what I know to be fact after 10+ years in online gambling.

 
Posted : February 5, 2009 9:21 am
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Thanks for your response. I did not read this until now.

I do not straight bet. I use a system that allows me to
win even if I buy two points.

I am doing about 30% per month in my sports book.
This is the truth.

I do not take big bets on the moneyline anymore. I
learned my lesson the hard way about that one. 😉

Undefeated77

P.S. What you said about buying the points is wise.
I will need to eliminate that but like Robert Ferringo
said the other day. Many games of his were losing by
1 point or less. So eventually I will need to eliminate
this. Since Siena has been winning by an average of
16 points I did not need to buy two points with Siena
today for sure.

 
Posted : February 21, 2009 9:29 am
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wait for football .....bet all quagmires under .... they cant score ...and thats as close as u get to a lock ....thats why i bet so much!...and u got 2 do it early .... i post them here ..... play all march madness dogs .... u will win more than u lose ...gl

 
Posted : February 21, 2009 9:34 am
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As I mentioned before Champ, I am glad you are winning but you are still giving away all your edge.

System or not you are looking at 2-3x juice at least by buying 2 points. It doesn't take too many losers to give back all you may win.

I would be interested in hearing more about this system but even at 30%, by my math I can't see how you are doing better than breaking even long term.

Am I missing something?

 
Posted : February 21, 2009 5:06 pm
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I would be interested in hearing more about this system but even at 30%, by my math I can't see how you are doing better than breaking even long term.

Am I missing something?

I am using a system where I am recouping past losses with future wins and
the amount I bet goes up as I lose and down as I win. Anyway, over the past
two months I have increased my sports book by 30% per month.

I do not want to give away any more of what I am doing on this public forum
as the sports books are limited in the wins they can handle. It is too bad this
is the case since in the forex market trillions of dollars is traded and you can
tell the world about the forex system you are using and not worry that it will
affect your future financial health if you are depending on that market.

By the way, I have some trusted contacts who are using a forex robot that is
continually being tweaked by the inventors of it. It is doing about 5% per
week or more. If these were not trusted contacts who I know would not lie
to me I would be skeptical of what they are saying.

I am going to be setting this up in the next couple of weeks and I will keep
you guys informed about how it is doing. I can share it with anyone that is
interested unlike the betting system I am using for the picks I am finding.

Anyway, I am glad I bought the 2 points with Sienna yesterday because if
I had not they would not have won that game for me.

To your prosperity, Undefeated77

 
Posted : February 22, 2009 11:34 am
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Hey UD,

was just interested on how that forex robot is doing. sounds pretty cool if you can get that to work.

 
Posted : March 31, 2009 12:49 am
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I am going to get that set up either by Friday or sometime by
Tuesday. I have just purchased it and have the money in the
account.

The technology of these robotic forex programs has come a long
way since they were first invented. The robot costs under $200
but can double an account in a matter of weeks.

I know that some may be skeptical here but I have two trusted
contacts who can prove this is true and when I see it happen
with my own eyes I will be back on here to tell you about it.

Thanks for asking, 8)

 
Posted : April 2, 2009 9:34 am
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By the way, the 30% per month I was getting was a result of
me taking a few occasional big bets and so I would not recommend
this. Shoot for 8% to 15% per month compounded and you will be
approaching your bankroll in a much safer way.

8)

 
Posted : April 2, 2009 9:38 am
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By the way, the 30% per month I was getting was a result of
me taking a few occasional big bets and so I would not recommend
this. Shoot for 8% to 15% per month compounded and you will be
approaching your bankroll in a much safer way.

8)

im excited, hope it works out.

 
Posted : April 5, 2009 1:10 pm
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im excited, hope it works out.

I have the forex robot set up now. They are not all the same. Some
that are advertised do not work. But because of the group of people I
have been involved with over the past four years or so, I have got
some trusted contacts who are all using this one and report phenomenal
gains. This robot eliminates the same emotional element that can hinder
profits in Sports betting: GREED. It also eliminates human error and
scalps profits right out of the forex market. I can tell you that this robot
is able to double accounts that are $1,000 and over in a matter of several weeks.

But I will not shout hoorah until I see it with my own eyes !!!

More later....... 8)

 
Posted : April 8, 2009 8:47 pm
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im excited, hope it works out.

I have the forex robot set up now. They are not all the same. Some
that are advertised do not work. But because of the group of people I
have been involved with over the past four years or so, I have got
some trusted contacts who are all using this one and report phenomenal
gains. This robot eliminates the same emotional element that can hinder
profits in Sports betting: GREED. It also eliminates human error and
scalps profits right out of the forex market. I can tell you that this robot
is able to double accounts that are $1,000 and over in a matter of several weeks.

But I will not shout hoorah until I see it with my own eyes !!!

More later....... 8)

yes please keep us updated.. 8)

 
Posted : April 25, 2009 11:09 am
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